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 Post subject: Model 1842 Officer's Pickelhaube - 9th Grenadier Regiment
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 4:10 pm 
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Hey all!

So upon searching the forum, I have found that M1842s are very seldom posted, so I figured I'd share mine with you all.

I would imagine this piece dates to the 1850s, some time after the introduction of the 'Colberg 1807' bandeau to the 9th Grenadier Regiment in 1849. No names or markings that I can see inside.

Sadly the front visor has come loose, but sitting on its visors for what must be 150 years, it makes sense. Otherwise the rest of the helmet is extremely solid but does show its age.

If anyone else can chime in more on these, any input is appreciated. It is so dang hard to find any information online (or in books for that matter).

Enjoy!

Karl

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 Post subject: Re: Model 1842 Officer's Pickelhaube - 9th Grenadier Regimen
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 5:07 pm 
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That is a terrific old beauty! Thank you for posting these pictures :thumb up: The only one I have ever handled belongs to Tony S.

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Stunning helmet, love the old ones!

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 Post subject: Re: Model 1842 Officer's Pickelhaube - 9th Grenadier Regimen
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Never had the chance to even see one in real live ,but this is a stunning helmet
Those early ones are so funny in chape compared with those M15
More than a great find :bravo:

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 Post subject: Re: Model 1842 Officer's Pickelhaube - 9th Grenadier Regimen
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:20 pm 
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Great helmet
Great photos
Thanks for the post and the photos
The 12 Prussian Grenadiers are among my favorites
and C G R 9 is sure one of them
Great history also

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Impressive, I've never seen one close up, only in photo's. It's a beautiful piece!

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 Post subject: Re: Model 1842 Officer's Pickelhaube - 9th Grenadier Regimen
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:02 pm 
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Yes, beautiful helmet! The "Mit Gott" bandeau dates it to after 1860...

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Very nice!!

Thanks for sharing :D

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Very nice indeed! Thanks for posting the photos.

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 Post subject: Re: Model 1842 Officer's Pickelhaube - 9th Grenadier Regimen
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It would be interesting to know how much that piece weighs. The height is phenomenal. I could not imagine fighting with that on my head even marching would be difficult.

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Beautiful piece. Love seeing the old ones. Bet it weighs less than a modern Kevlar.


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That is a fantastic piece.

What really strikes me about this helmet is how much the shape resembles the cavalry helmets of the era. The shape of this helmet is closer to the original Russian leather spiked helmets, which were of the type used in the Crimean War - and which are closer in shape to the British Home Service helmet.

Thank you for posting. This really highlights the original shape of the Prussian spiked helmets.


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Beautiful haube :bravo:


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 Post subject: Re: Model 1842 Officer's Pickelhaube - 9th Grenadier Regimen
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Beautiful Helm. If I may, what is the book you show? thank you. Keith


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 Post subject: Re: Model 1842 Officer's Pickelhaube - 9th Grenadier Regimen
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Hi Gents,

It seems to me that some elements on this helmet are not from that early period of wear: the "modern" officer cockade (1880-1890), some modern nuts at the inside, the nuts of the chinscales...
I am also wondering that the Wappen is fixed on the shell with loops and leather wedges....It should have screw posts...The wings of the eagle should not lay on the Colberg Bandeau....

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Good points to mention..... I had noticed the modern steel hex nut but thought that was acceptable due to the age of the helmet. The other things, I had not picked up on. I have only handled one of these and that was on a visit to Tony S's a few years back so I really have no detailed knowledge of 1842 haube characteristics.

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 Post subject: Re: Model 1842 Officer's Pickelhaube - 9th Grenadier Regimen
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argonne wrote:
Hi Gents,

...The wings of the eagle should not lay on the Colberg Bandeau....

Philippe
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Yeah it looks to be cut down .

But possibly all original showing the first step it took in it's long life.


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