As far as the tops etc. on these tschakos, we are really looking at a piece of headdress that has no metal fittings or support disc to hold things in position. The only metal, unlike the pickelhaube, is the wappen and the ventilation fittings which offer no support at all. Sometimes the top sinks in and other times it pops up depending on conditions. Its rather ironic....they cancelled the "rolled front" visor on the hauben but kept it for the tschako.