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[gino1]

I paid $450.00 for my Hessian L G I R 115 officers helmet back in the 1970's
A helmet from that regiment is now $7,000 +
Steve

I can understand it somewhere, but don't forget certain things, in the past they were indeed for every collector, now I think there are people who already own about 50 pieces and now want some rarer pieces and are willing to pay that price for them, but life is very different, the crisis hits everywhere especially in Europe if you think you have to spend 3000 dollars or 2600 euros or more for a very nice piece then think about it, there is also the family, suppose your wife buys a dress of this price what are you going to think; it has always been the case that people who earn a good living can buy this, while others can only look at it and think, if only I had the money, but as I said, I used to be able to buy one for 450 dollars and now 7000 dollars, I think it is some kind of investment, they are thinking wrong, among most collectors are now old and have seen the good times, now people only buy a piece that is affordable for them or a piece every now and then, but prices of over 5000 are very difficult to sell, just look at Weitze, I am full of them and they remain in Europe, so to each his own, unfortunately it is such a time now, there is more than a pickelhoube, I am also looking for a Württemberg Tschapka for officers in the Uhlan regiment so to each his own and I respect everyone

 

[John Josef]

I paid $450.00 for my Hessian L G I R 115 officers helmet back in the 1970's
A helmet from that regiment is now $7,000 +
Steve

All of us old gentleman love to talk about the old days, I remember as a youngster hearing old men talk about buying ACW items for a few dollars nobody even wanted WWI items.

Times are always changing and. if you'd ever want to triple your money on that fine L G I R 115 Officers helm I'd be willing to help you out.

Of course, that's me just making a joke but new or young collectors getting into the hobby now for the most part are priced out of the market at 7000 bucks for a helmet.

There have always been collectors who can afford to pay whatever it takes to own something they want whether it's a million-dollar collectors' car or a helmet costing thousands of dollars that 99.9% of the world would think someone would be insane to pay.

That's why we are all gathered here we love this stuff whether we can afford it or not.

 

[coert65]

Well John, you can get lucky too. A member here had a nice Saxon M95 here for sale. I wanted to buy it, but as most folks here know I'm getting out of a not so nice time. I wanted to buy it for 750$, which was okay for him. Then, he withdrew the sale, wanted to keep it. No problem, I understand that. I just needed some time to get the cash in full.
Then later on, I saw that exact helmet for sale on E-bay, same pictures as here.
He didn't get very lucky though, it sold for 535$ on ebay. So his luck ran out.
I am still on the lookout for a nice Saxon M95 though. And I will find one.

 

[KAGGR#1]

All of us old gentleman love to talk about the old days, I remember as a youngster hearing old men talk about buying ACW items for a few dollars nobody even wanted WWI items.

Times are always changing and. if you'd ever want to triple your money on that fine L G I R 115 Officers helm I'd be willing to help you out.

Of course, that's me just making a joke but new or young collectors getting into the hobby now for the most part are priced out of the market at 7000 bucks for a helmet.

There have always been collectors who can afford to pay whatever it takes to own something they want whether it's a million-dollar collectors' car or a helmet costing thousands of dollars that 99.9% of the world would think someone would be insane to pay.

That's why we are all gathered here we love this stuff whether we can afford it or not.

Here's the problem. I no longer have that $450 helmet . I had also bought a Hessian FAR 25 officers helmet with the star for $250 and I bought
a D R 23 officer helmet with the star . I don't remember what I paid for that last one. But my big mistake was some years later I thought that I only wanted to collect Prussian helmets . So, I sold all of my Non-Prussian helmets. Prices of the helmets had gone up and I thought that I had done well.
Maybe $10,000 +for the 3 Hessian helmets?
More years went by. I knew that I had made a mistake , so one by one I replaced the 3 Hessian helmets. All 3 cost me more to replace
that the prices that I sold my others for. The Hessian D R officers helmet was the hardest to replace. That took heavy duty trade.
The photo that shows the 3 helmets with one a bush are of my former 3 helmets . The other photo is of my replacement helmets .
The bargain days are long gone
Steve

 

[Amybellars]

Well John, you can get lucky too. A member here had a nice Saxon M95 here for sale. I wanted to buy it, but as most folks here know I'm getting out of a not so nice time. I wanted to buy it for 750$, which was okay for him. Then, he withdrew the sale, wanted to keep it. No problem, I understand that. I just needed some time to get the cash in full.
Then later on, I saw that exact helmet for sale on E-bay, same pictures as here.
He didn't get very lucky though, it sold for 535$ on ebay. So his luck ran out.
I am still on the lookout for a nice Saxon M95 though. And I will find one.

I tried ebay for my items and it is really for not so nice items and they don't get good prices. I prefer to sell to dealers and so far, I am happy dealing with them.
Just had an auction house in Australia asking me to consign pickelhaubes to them. I spoke to them 18 months ago which they ignore me and now telling me they can give me good results.
Is 54 years old consider old? I started collecting about 20 years ago. A late developer.

 

[911car]

Hello dear enthusiasts, lately the sales of the beautiful pickelhaubes offered from Age of Kings have been going very fast, apparently there are people who wait until the minute the new pieces are opened, unfortunately I rarely have the chance to see the prices, let alone buy something, so there are apparently still many enthusiasts for the good beautiful pieces,

Speed dating applied to Pickelhauben??.. For me, this is not the way you collect antiques, but I may be the only one here who disapproves.

 

[ww1czechlegion]

I paid $450.00 for my Hessian L G I R 115 officers helmet back in the 1970's
A helmet from that regiment is now $7,000 +
Steve

I am not picking on Steve here for saying this, because what he said is true.

A rare $450 helmet back in the 1970's that is now valued at $7,000.
$450 was a lot of money back in the 1970's to most people.

Here is a part of the understanding of how this happened:

In 1965 the United States made the decision to discontinue silver coins.

Right now, $1 face value of silver U.S. coins made before 1965 are selling for a bit over $30.

Currently, 99% pure silver, one ounce, $1 face value 2025 minted U.S. Silver Eagle Coins are selling for over $41 per coin + "spot".

Gold is currently at $3,600+ per ounce. A year ago in January of 2024, it was far less than half that amount. If I recall correctly, around $1,200 or so per ounce. I would need to check to make certain the exact value amount per ounce of Gold in January of 2024. That huge increase in price/value per ounce speaks as to how bad our inflation problem is.

And in 1933 gold U.S. coins were discontinued. This was necessary so that the USA could inflate its currency.

Inflation destroys the value of the U.S. Dollar over a period of time, making things much more expensive to purchase.

For instance, inflation in 2023 began with monetary policy mistakes in 2008, when then–Federal Reserve chair Bernanke embarked on a new, untried policy called Modern Monetary Theory (MMT). The Fed issued — “printed” — trillions of U.S. dollars and inserted them (liquidity) into the economy. It is called quantitative easing, or Q.E. This was an extreme departure from historical policy, and it was implemented unilaterally and without debate by the Treasury Department and the Federal Reserve. They did Q.E.1, Q.E.2, and Q.E.3.

U.S. Federal Reserve implementation of a new monetary theory (MMT) in 2008 haunts us to this day. The inflation we suffered over the bulk of President Biden’s term was caused by excessive money supply that started in 2008. Any fourth-year economic student (or a first-year Austrian School economist) would tell us that excess money supply causes devaluation of the purchasing power of the U.S. dollar — in other words, inflation.

 

[John Josef]

Speed dating applied to Pickelhauben??.. For me, this is not the way you collect antiques, but I may be the only one here who disapproves.

That is a great way of putting it. she comes in and sits down smiles at you and you don't even have time to ask her name, and she's already gone.


I think with AOK the serious collectors with deep pockets already know what they are looking for and rely strictly on the reputation that AOK has built over the years and just click the button as fast as they can, so they don't miss out on a rare helmet they have been looking for.

IMO if the same helmet popped up on Ebay that same buyer would not click the buy it now button for the same price without taking a really long look and maybe even vetting it here or with friends first.

It's all about the clientele that AOK has built over the years and the trust that goes into that. They also guarantee their items to be period manufacture and offer a three-day inspection with a full refund minus postage.

You also have the experience of these two gentlemen and the comfort knowing that they have already inspected their products before they even hit the site.

Man, I sound like a commercial for AOK maybe they will send me a 20% off coupon.

I'm a hunter personally I like to find items in the wild on the cheap if possible but if something ever popped up on their site that I had been searching for in vain for years I wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger. I've bought from them before and have been very satisfied.

 

[911car]

I am not picking on Steve here for saying this, because what he said is true.

A rare $450 helmet back in the 1970's that is now valued at $7,000.
$450 was a lot of money back in the 1970's to most people.

Here is a part of the understanding of how this happened:

In 1965 the United States made the decision to discontinue silver coins.

Right now, $1 face value of silver U.S. coins made before 1965 are selling for a bit over $30.

Currently, 99% pure silver, one ounce, $1 face value 2025 minted U.S. Silver Eagle Coins are selling for over $41 per coin + "spot".

Gold is currently at $3,600+ per ounce. A year ago in January of 2024, it was far less than half that amount. If I recall correctly, around $1,200 or so per ounce. I would need to check to make certain the exact value amount per ounce of Gold in January of 2024. That huge increase in price/value per ounce speaks as to how bad our inflation problem is.

And in 1933 gold U.S. coins were discontinued. This was necessary so that the USA could inflate its currency.

Inflation destroys the value of the U.S. Dollar over a period of time, making things much more expensive to purchase.

For instance, inflation in 2023 began with monetary policy mistakes in 2008, when then–Federal Reserve chair Bernanke embarked on a new, untried policy called Modern Monetary Theory (MMT). The Fed issued — “printed” — trillions of U.S. dollars and inserted them (liquidity) into the economy. It is called quantitative easing, or Q.E. This was an extreme departure from historical policy, and it was implemented unilaterally and without debate by the Treasury Department and the Federal Reserve. They did Q.E.1, Q.E.2, and Q.E.3.

U.S. Federal Reserve implementation of a new monetary theory (MMT) in 2008 haunts us to this day. The inflation we suffered over the bulk of President Biden’s term was caused by excessive money supply that started in 2008. Any fourth-year economic student (or a first-year Austrian School economist) would tell us that excess money supply causes devaluation of the purchasing power of the U.S. dollar — in other words, inflation.

Many thanks for such a well-documented explanation, Alan.

 

[KAGGR#1]

The A o K update has added helmets for sale this A M .
Steve

 

[KAGGR#1]

The A o K update has added helmets for sale this A M .
Steve

4 out of 5 now sold or on hold
at 9 :30 A M
Steve

 

[J.LeBrasseur]

yea, missed the one I wanted!

 

[gino1]

Well, they are ready on the keyboard, luckily I don't have to worry so much, because those prices are not for me now, I'll pass on these very nice pickelhaubes, you can't buy everything I want, unfortunately good luck everyone, I would still like to see the prices

 

[2nd.Leibhusar]

4 out of 5 now sold or on hold
at 9 :30 A M
Steve

I'ved missed the IR109.
Do you know how much it went, Steve ?

 

[Doug B]

I'ved missed the IR109.
Do you know how much it went, Steve ?

It was about 6500 if I recall correctly?

 

[Doug B]

Well, they are ready on the keyboard, luckily I don't have to worry so much, because those prices are not for me now, I'll pass on these very nice pickelhaubes, you can't buy everything I want, unfortunately good luck everyone, I would still like to see the prices

I think one reason these are selling so fast is the pricing has been very reasonable if not even well under what dealer prices typically are.

 

[gino1]

I think one reason these are selling so fast is the pricing has been very reasonable if not even well under what dealer prices typically are.

that may be so, but you rarely come across these special pickelhaubes at auctions or ebay etc... unfortunately I don't know the prices of them, and honestly 6500 $ is still a lot of money I think, of course old collectors have already sold most of the pickelhaubes that you come across often, while young beginners are already up to date with this one, I would like to have a nice wurttemberg or something like that skapa complete

 

[Doug B]

that may be so, but you rarely come across these special pickelhaubes at auctions or ebay etc... unfortunately I don't know the prices of them, and honestly 6500 $ is still a lot of money I think, of course old collectors have already sold most of the pickelhaubes that you come across often, while young beginners are already up to date with this one, I would like to have a nice wurttemberg or something like that skapa complete

$6500 was not for an everyday helmet but for a rather special regiment and one in good condition. For a plain jane Württ. AoK has sold for far far less than that and had one from this collection priced and sold for about $1500 if I recall correctly and in fact see them come up for sale often at reasonable prices. Maybe your just looking for one far below market value and are frustrated you can’t find a $1500 pickelhabue for $500?

If you’re looking on eBay then good luck to you. Some auctions you’ll find great items but often the final price is much higher with competitive bidding and once the auctioneer adds their 15-25% (or more!).

Well priced items in good condition that are in demand will sell fast, especially if they are rarer harder to find items. It’s like that with literally anything from groceries to vintage cars to real estate.

I’m not sure what the point is you’ve been trying to make in the thread to be honest. You’re upset about prices? Upset AoK sells things so fast? I honestly don’t get the complaining every week.

 

[coert65]

Correct. I usually buy from forum members, paid 1000 euro's for a very nice hessian M15, and several other very nice helmets for a bit less.
Don't forget, AoK are dealers too, but they do offer very nice helmets. I have bought very nice helmets from dealers, but their prices were also not bad. Sander also has good helmets for sale, I dealed also a lot with him.
Remember, these guy's also have a shop to run, so the price will have to justify that. Nobody wants to work for free you know.
And neither do I, I also like to get paid for my work. Just like them.

 

[gino1]

$6500 was not for an everyday helmet but for a rather special regiment and one in good condition. For a plain jane Württ. AoK has sold for far far less than that and had one from this collection priced and sold for about $1500 if I recall correctly and in fact see them come up for sale often at reasonable prices. Maybe your just looking for one far below market value and are frustrated you can’t find a $1500 pickelhabue for $500?

If you’re looking on eBay then good luck to you. Some auctions you’ll find great items but often the final price is much higher with competitive bidding and once the auctioneer adds their 15-25% (or more!).

Well priced items in good condition that are in demand will sell fast, especially if they are rarer harder to find items. It’s like that with literally anything from groceries to vintage cars to real estate.

I’m not sure what the point is you’ve been trying to make in the thread to be honest. You’re upset about prices? Upset AoK sells things so fast? I honestly don’t get the complaining every week.

Correct. I usually buy from forum members, paid 1000 euro's for a very nice hessian M15, and several other very nice helmets for a bit less.
Don't forget, AoK are dealers too, but they do offer very nice helmets. I have bought very nice helmets from dealers, but their prices were also not bad. Sander also has good helmets for sale, I dealed also a lot with him.
Remember, these guy's also have a shop to run, so the price will have to justify that. Nobody wants to work for free you know.
And neither do I, I also like to get paid for my work. Just like them.

oops apparently I recorded my text differently, that's not how I meant it I also know that very special helmets are quite expensive, but I mean that beginners don't think about these prices, by the way I also have beautiful pieces of value, everything has its value, as I always say, it's the fool who asks and the fool who gives, that's the idea of every hobby, a hobby with beautiful pieces costs money I know that too