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[pointystuff]

Note the bubbling on the reverse.

Prussian Landwehr officer's helmet plate. | eBay

The Prussian Landwehr officer's helmet plate is an original, authentic piece from the era of World War I. Made in Germany, this collectible item reflects the military history and culture of the time. The helmet plate would have been worn by a Prussian Landwehr officer during the war, making it a...

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[John Josef]

Hopefully nobody gets taken for a ride on this one

 

[911car]

But it is described as "an original, authentic piece from the era of World War I."
How could it be a fake?? I am confused.

 

[GFMMackensen]

The description is wrong in so many ways, So what is it really worth? If a real one is $1500 to $2500?

 

[b.loree]

I could use the star as I have a neusilber Garde officer in my collection which is missing one! My cost estimate for an original would be $700-800 US. The screw posts, nuts etc are also obviously new.

 

[911car]

I could use the star as I have a neusilber Garde officer in my collection which is missing one! My cost estimate for an original would be $700-800 US. The screw posts, nuts etc are also obviously new.

Sure, Brian, but the Garde star bears the typical signature of fakes: absence of horizontal stripes on SUUM CUIQUE letters. There are also blobs of metal on the Q and E, and red fruits next to green leaves are missing... I am sure your nice helmet deserves better. Only my opinion though...

 

[CLOVIS 57]

Thank you for bringing this reproduction to our attention.
One might have doubts about the front, but absolutely none about the back. Authentic helmets are stamped from a sheet of brass, so the details on the obverse are the same as those on the reverse.
Here, the eagle is correct on the front, but it's clear that the metal is cast on the reverse. The details are "soft and blurry," and there are small lumps here and there. The finish is grainy.

For several years now, I haven't bought a "rare" officer's helmet unless I can see the back of the plate. And I sleep very well at night.

 

[Bobted]

pics

 

[CLOVIS 57]

To identify an authentic item from a copy, one must once again be meticulous about the details.



But the best thing is to have access to the back, once again.

 

[Zebedeus]

But it is described as "an original, authentic piece from the era of World War I."
How could it be a fake?? I am confused.

 

[Bobted]

Look how poor the "UND" is.

 

[poniatowski]

Were the letters and wreath on the originals stamped out or cut with a jeweler's saw?

 

[gino1]

That's why we have this forum, it's good that there are still good enthusiasts here who can explain things a bit, I would say we are learning.

 

[Steve Nick]

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How true! Access to the reverse usually tells the tale.

Although failing that, a "jewelers loop" to examine the obverse is a must in my book.