Fuss Artillerie Find

911car said:
Thank you for the details, Philippe. I was not sure whether Batl. or Batt. was written on the tag. I have also seen Batterie abbreviated as "Batt".

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Hi Bruno,
Yes, that´s a second variant (y)
You must always check the following thing: if the last letter of the abbreviation is indeed an ‘l’ , it is higher than the preceding ‘t’. In this case, we have “Bataillon” . If the last two letters are identical, as in your example, Bruno, then we have ‘Batterie’.
Philippe

Other examples of Bataillon and Batterie::

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And sometimes we also have only "Bat." for Bataillon. In this case it´s logical because we have an infantry unit. It simply can not be Batterie.

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Here, we have a very scarce hessian Feld-Bataillon:

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And here, an Ersatz- Bataillon of a Pionier-Bataillon:

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argonne said:
Field artillery regiments were subdivided into two or three Abteilungen. Foot artillery regiments were subdivided into two or three Bataillonen. Most of the time, each of those Abteilungen and Bataillonen comprised three Batterien.
Here, because we are in a Rekruten Depot of a Fußartillerie Regiment, it is an Ersatz- Bataillon (Batl.). Batterie would have been Battr.


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And if we would have had here a Rekruten Depot of a Feldartillerie Regiment, we would have seen a Ersatz-Abteilung.

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Philippe
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Thank you for that clarification Philippe.
 
I have finished the restoration. Most of the work was centred around the re-lacquering of the areas where the original finish had flaked off. The proper 1895 pattern Wappen with the FWR cypher has been added and the badly damaged Kugel has been replaced with a better condition piece with a threaded Kugel which I had for years hoping a helmet that was entitled to wear it would come along.

I had to decide whether to leave the original patina intact or not but given that the Wappen had the original gilt finish intact it would have looked totally out of place. So, the visor trim and the rear spine have been polished and the Kugel was left as it came out of the parts drawer. In time the poloished brass it will look less out of place.

Interesting to me is the fact that the round bottom plate of the Kugel assembly is made of steel and plated in brass/gilt. The rest of the assembly is brass.

The Kokarden and the chinstrap re originals taken from a lesser qulaity helmet. I think it turned out rather well.

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argonne said:
I do not understand this topic :rolleyes: :oops: Because the helmet still is on sale..,..

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Philippe:

I can understand your confusion. I've noticed that as well. I looked on the Toronto Military Antiques website and it has been removed from the site. I'm guessing he's forgotten about the eBay offering.
 
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