M1895 Waffenrock - opinions

[bwahl]

Hello all,
Any opinions on the this piece? The only clothiers mark on the tunic is a ovular one and appear to read "Gröningen" with what looks like the word "Costumier" in the middle. There is a Gröningen, Saxony, otherwise a Dutch made article would be odd. Could the lack of Bekleidungsamt indicate a private purchase?

Regards,
-BW

 

[Lars13]

Hi BW,
Difficult to tell, the uniform seems well made, and the mark looks like ????SMA GRONINGEN. The ending "sma" of last names is very typical in the Groningen province (with its capital also named Groningen), and I can almost read: F. A. BOOMSMA, GRONINGEN.
I also found some theatrical costumes on the internet from this company.
That doesn't mean that this could not be original, but both the liner and the shoulder straps look strange, and what unit could this have belonged to? It could be Bavarian I.R. 6, before they got the cypher, but the cloth is much darker than the typical Bavarian lighter blue.
Could be an original uniform modified by a theatrical company, or completely made by the theatrical company.
There were Germans working and living across the border in the Netherlands, and theoretically they could have had their private uniform made in the Netherlands, but very unlikely if they were in the Bavarian army
Regards,
Lars

 

[bwahl]

Hi BW,
Difficult to tell, the uniform seems well made, and the mark looks like ????SMA GRONINGEN. The ending "sma" of last names is very typical in the Groningen province (with its capital also named Groningen), and I can almost read: F. A. BOOMSMA, GRONINGEN.
I also found some theatrical costumes on the internet from this company.
That doesn't mean that this could not be original, but both the liner and the shoulder straps look strange, and what unit could this have belonged to? It could be Bavarian I.R. 6, before they got the cypher, but the cloth is much darker than the typical Bavarian lighter blue.
Could be an original uniform modified by a theatrical company, or completely made by the theatrical company.
There were Germans working and living across the border in the Netherlands, and theoretically they could have had their private uniform made in the Netherlands, but very unlikely if they were in the Bavarian army
Regards,
Lars

Good eyes, Lars (and genealogical knowledge), very unusual indeed. I'm scratching my head at the shoulder boards. I was pouring over some of the older posts here and found an identical ovular marking (in a visored Feldmuetze on DerRittmeister) - except it being "Amsterdam" and not "Groningen". https://derrittmeistermilitaria.com...62223&pr_ref_pid=8032693125359&pr_seq=uniform

 

[KAGGR#1]

Hello all,
Any opinions on the this piece? The only clothiers mark on the tunic is a ovular one and appear to read "Gröningen" with what looks like the word "Costumier" in the middle. There is a Gröningen, Saxony, otherwise a Dutch made article would be odd. Could the lack of Bekleidungsamt indicate a private purchase?

Regards,
-BW

The 6 on the shoulder straps does look crude
But I have some early straps that look that way
so they could be O K if the uniform is an older one
thinking out loud without my reference book
Prussian Grenadier Regt 6 did not have a cypher
only # 6 .They did not get their litzen until late
I think that I see yellow piping on the cuffs ?
Not sure if G R 6 had yellow piping
Steve

 

[KAGGR#1]

The 6 on the shoulder straps does look crude
But I have some early straps that look that way
so they could be O K if the uniform is an older one
thinking out loud without my reference book
Prussian Grenadier Regt 6 did not have a cypher
only # 6 .They did not get their litzen until late
I think that I see yellow piping on the cuffs ?
Not sure if G R 6 had yellow piping
Steve

I just remembered that G R 6 shoulder straps are yellow
Steve

 

[bwahl]

I just remembered that G R 6 shoulder straps are yellow
Steve

It must be some kind of "frankenstein" piece. The overall cut looks convincing but the aforementioned inconsistencies are off putting. The search for "Dunkelblau" continues.