M95 Saxon 12th Field Artillery Pickelhaube

[John Josef]

Yes, J-J. But the Bavarians will not have a bull crest until after April 1916, when the iron-lined helmet-Feldgrau was adopted by the King and the Bavarian General Staff. So never on helmets with brass inserts.

Hi Thierry,

Thanks for the confirmation on the date, I posted yesterday on WAF it was1916. Always good to have another corroborating opinion.

MFG John Josef

 

[argonne]

1-Nothing found on Lengendorf, but I’ll let "Argonne" answer, he’s the specialist.

To my opinion, the name is not Lengendorf but Langendorf.
There is only one guy with this name in the saxon Verlustlisten in a artillery unit, Alfred Langendorf who was in the 5. (F) Batterie of the saxon Feld-Artillerie-Regiment 245 formed on the 28.3.15 near Rozoy (Aisne) from the former III/ Reserve FAR23 and the III/ Reserve FAR24.

Verlustlisten 1. Weltkrieg, page 23213: Langendorf Alfred (Deutzen, Borna)

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Verlustlisten 1. Weltkrieg, page 28377: Langendorf Alfred (Deutzen, Borna)

des.genealogy.net

I am wondering for what the "F" could stay for Maybe Fuss-Batterie? One can see on the second publication of the Verlustlisten, that three Batterien of the nine have the "F" before. The fourth, the fifth and the sixth... If the marking 12 in your helmet really could have been for the FAR 12, the only link between FAR245 and FAR12 is the fact that part of the Reserve FAR23 (the first Abteilung) was formed in Dresden from the FAR12.
Why does this helmet has a spike instead of a ball? This could be a postwar change made by an inexperienced collector...

Philippe

 

[C. Roelens]

To my opinion, the name is not Lengendorf but Langendorf.
There is only one guy with this name in the saxon Verlustlisten in a artillery unit, Alfred Langendorf who was in the 5. (F) Batterie of the saxon Feld-Artillerie-Regiment 245 formed on the 28.3.15 near Rozoy (Aisne) from the former III/ Reserve FAR23 and the III/ Reserve FAR24.

Verlustlisten 1. Weltkrieg, page 23213: Langendorf Alfred (Deutzen, Borna)

des.genealogy.net

Verlustlisten 1. Weltkrieg, page 28377: Langendorf Alfred (Deutzen, Borna)

des.genealogy.net

I am wondering for what the "F" could stay for Maybe Fuss-Batterie? One can see on the second publication of the Verlustlisten, that three Batterien of the nine have the "F" before. The fourth, the fifth and the sixth... If the marking 12 in your helmet really could have been for the FAR 12, the only link between FAR245 and FAR12 is the fact that part of the Reserve FAR23 (the first Abteilung) was formed in Dresden from the FAR12.
Why does this helmet has a spike instead of a ball? This could be a postwar change made by an inexperienced collector...

Philippe

Thank you Philippe.