Repost helmet ID

[Pickels14]

Could anyone help ID this helmet. Recently purchased by a friend

 

[Pickels14]

This one is mine. Could anyone provide a critique and ID?

 

[Kaiser Wilhelm II]

The first helmet is an Austrian M1917 Helmet, denoted as Austrian by the higher mounted Chin Strap mounts, it is not in its original brown paint however.
The Second Piece is a German M1918 Helmet with Camouflage. It is denoted as an M18 by the lack of lower mounted lugs for the chinstrap on the skirt. These are both decent pieces in my opinion.

 

[Pickels14]

Thanks for the message. My friends helmet was advertised as an SS/VT transition helmet. Would you be able to provide any confirmation?

 

[Kaiser Wilhelm II]

My friends helmet was advertised as an SS/VT transition helmet. Would you be able to provide any confirmation?

I am not necessarily sure on that subject, however as the helmet stands right now, I'd say that is untrue, however I am no final word.

 

[Pickels14]

Thanks for the comment

 

[Bobted]

SS helmet shells were marked RZM and SS. A black WW1 helmet is probably painted for the Fire Brigade. Rob

 

[Bobted]

The Camo looks new ,and not one I would want. Rob

 

[Pickels14]

SS helmet shells were marked RZM and SS. A black WW1 helmet is probably painted for the Fire Brigade. Rob

Is this including the ones purchased from Austria in the 30s for the early nazi party goons? I thought they just repainted and badged them with ss. Some ss were even hand painted?

 

[Pickels14]

The Camo looks new ,and not one I would want. Rob

Have you got any camo helmets for comparison?

 

[Bobted]

Unless it’s got runes on it or is named and unit named then it’s just a repainted WW 1 helmet. There is an expert here who might chip in as SS IS not my thing.

 

[Bobted]

I have a few sold and sold a lot of WW1 camos . I will add a photo later. Rob

 

[Bobted]

Not the best photos but you can see the difference

 

[Bobted]

And

 

[Pickels14]

Thanks for the photos

 

[Pickels14]

I found this documentary discussing the conversion helmet

 

[John Josef]

Hi Rob, those are some real one lookers there Congratulation

I wouldn't get anywhere near that first helmet run away from that one.

 

[Steve Nick]

SS helmet shells were marked RZM and SS. A black WW1 helmet is probably painted for the Fire Brigade. Rob

To clarify; Waffen SS helmets were not RZM marked.

M35, M40 and M42 steel helmets had the maker, size and heat lot numbers only stamped into the interior surfaces of the shell.

 

[Bobted]

Yes WW1 helmets and specific SS helmet shells not WW2 helmets. It’s a very complex subject . Rob